#include <bits/stdc++.h>
using namespace std;
int main() {
string word, article;
cin >> word;
cin.ignore(numeric_limits<streamsize>::max(), '\n');
getline(cin, article);
if (!article.empty() && article.back() == '\r') article.pop_back();
for (char &c : word) c = (char)toupper((unsigned char)c);
int cnt = 0, first = -1;
int n = (int)article.size();
for (int i = 0; i < n; ) {
if (!isalpha((unsigned char)article[i])) { i++; continue; } // 空格不是单词的一部分
int j = i;
while (j < n && isalpha((unsigned char)article[j])) j++;
// [i, j) 是一整个独立单词
if (j - i == (int)word.size()) {
bool same = true;
for (int k = 0; k < (int)word.size(); k++) {
if (toupper((unsigned char)article[i + k]) != word[k]) { same = false; break; }
}
if (same) {
cnt++;
if (first == -1) first = i;
}
}
i = j;
}
if (cnt == 0) cout << -1 << "\n";
else cout << cnt << " " << first << "\n";
return 0;
}